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Topic starter 15/11/2021 4:12 pm  

I know nothing about silks other than what I have read here and

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Peter's videos. 

So I just bought this large double peacock silk. Dated/sold as 19th century and is large at 67cm x 84cm. It appears to be in excellent condition etc with very vibrant colors. It was a winning bid at £155 plus shipping. I think it was a very good buy. 

Sold by jgartsltd. I did try and buy also a small scholars jade vase. 

Mark

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16/11/2021 3:11 am  

Tam said the pinks and brown were after 1860 and 1870 (he said the different dates in separate posts, maybe each colour was dated, so probably best to take the later one as a guide. Is it lined? I was wondering how they stitch the seams when they join two pieces, so if it isn't and you have a photo, it would be interesting to see.

The stitches look to be mainly satin stitch with some couching, but I can’t zoom in close enough to identify anything else. Not that I remember a great deal, although when I see these pieces it does make me want to embroider again.

Are you going to frame it? 


   
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Topic starter 16/11/2021 12:26 pm  

@Julia,

Thanks for your comments. Very much appreciated. Unfortunately they are the only images I have. The seller is known and is usually reliable with dating. So I am thinking late Qing 19th/20th century. 

Not sure if I will keep it and frame it or move it along early next year with a number of jades scheduled for auction. 

Mark 

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16/11/2021 3:05 pm  

I would see it in that time frame, probably more the 20th c end.

As you know, silk creases easily and deeply, in the days that I wore silk dresses, I found that if I was packing them it better to roll them or pad out the folds with tissue or something and keep it loosely packed. 😊 


   
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16/11/2021 7:46 pm  

Again, I think Julia is correct on the age being 20th c...1920-30's

Certainly has a Canton feel to it, and the use of brown is something I've seen before in a really nice late 19th c. Canton bed cover depicting ducks, birds, & butterflies among lotus that I once owned and since sold.  Here's a few pics of some of the work.

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Topic starter 17/11/2021 5:37 am  

@Greeno107,

Nice silk my friend.

So well all think late Qing early Republican period.

Maybe I shall ask Peter when hegetd better. Oddly this silk was not  in the weekly newsletter from what I could see. The sellers other items were. 

Mark 


   
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17/11/2021 11:36 am  

@imperialfinegems 

The color in the feathers is just fabulous, and despite not knowing a thing about silks I wouldn't have hesitated on buying it if I had come across it.  Beautiful.

Jeremy


   
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Topic starter 17/11/2021 1:29 pm  

@jbeer2121,

Hi Jeremy,

Exactly why I bought this one!

Normally I don't try and buy silks. But this one appealed to me 

Mark 

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@imperialfinegems 

Hi Mark -

I know nothing about silks, but this piece has wonderful detailing and beautiful colours ...

My congratulations on acquiring ...

Stuart 


   
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Topic starter 17/11/2021 7:04 pm  

@Ming1499,

Thank you Stuart. We are both in the same boat.

I did however run it past my friend who used to work for Christies NY as a senior advisor.

He was unsure as it was out of his field. But thought it had potential to be Late Qing.

Mark 


   
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31/03/2022 6:19 pm  

There are some absolutely beautiful stitch work pieces on the market that are terribly underappreciated.  I find them at group antique stores sometimes.


   
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01/04/2022 12:51 pm  

In China, the peacock is the totem worshiped by the Dai people. The Dai people created Peacock Dance by imitating the peacock. Peacock feathers are popularly used in unique crafts and decorations. In Suzhou embroidery works, we can see peacock pictures very often. The embroidery artists in Suzhou like making silk peacock embroideries. As some embroidery artists put it, peacocks are a work of art by God. It's more than a work to embroider a peacock on silk satin, but a really happy time that many embroidery artists enjoy. 

In ancient Chinese culture peacocks were sometimes embroidered on hangings belonging to high ranking officials to represent their authority. Peacocks were also ascribed in an ancient book with 9 virtues: "having a tidy face, clear voice, careful walk, appropriate behavior according to place and time, moderation in eating and drinking, knowing how to be content, existing together, not being obscene, and always returning." Peacocks were therefore painted on buildings and other items to honor these much loved virtues.

The following peacock paintings are all hand embroidered with fine silk threads on silk by embroidery artists in Su Embroidery Studio.


   
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01/04/2022 1:00 pm  

@imperialfinegems if you want to know what your silk is send a email to Jacqueline Simcox she is extremely knowledgeable and will answer your emails. I have had her review several pieces and was spot on.

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Topic starter 02/04/2022 2:42 am  

@lotusblack,

Hi Brian,

Thank you for advice. I shall get in contact with her. 

Mark 

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Topic starter 05/04/2022 7:53 am  

@lotusblack,

Hi Brian,

I did contact Jacqueline about my silk.

She thinks that it is inconclusive as to how old and even if its chinese. She is of the opinion thats its Highly probable to be a tourist type silk. Possible 1950's.

Very detailed response from her that I have posted here in part. 

All very interesting.

Mark 

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