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Cj
Hi,
Is that really Qianlong? Or is that why you have flagged this up? I know I know very little, but it doesn't look right at all to me.
Best wishes,
Julia
Just spent some time trying to find something comparable but other than, yes, the enamels remind me of those on some plates I posted here, I still can't see it.
If someone has time, it would be very helpful if you would point out what I am missing. I would probably have passed on this unless, of course, it feels right in the hand. I can't tell that from the photos.
Thanks,
Julia
To me this doesn‘t look right. Too shiny and white and the colors are applied in a strange way. I have only small Qianlong pieces but they look somehow different. I would be glad to hear some expert on this, because it would be a chance to learn.
Birgit
Hello everyone,
this is real Qianlong export vase. Unfortunately, it was drilled and have a hairline. I bought it from a collector. I sell it because of the condition. If you buy it and find it were not Qianlong, i refund you anytime.
thanks
Charles
Cj
Famille rose export lasted the whole period of Qing Dynasty. Early Famille rose (Kangxi, Yongzheng, and Qianlong) are highest quality, their glaze are more white and color are more bright than later period. Due to The economic recession, after Qianlong, Qing Dynasty’s export porcelain used cheaper quality of painted, so, the color is not bright anymore.
Here is the color of a later plate I just sold on eBay. You can compare the difference.
Cj
Thank you for the information. However, I still can't see this as a genuine Qianlong vase - it isn't just the decoration, and I am sure the drilling makes the mark look off-centre, it is the shape and the whiteness: it makes me think of much more recent vases.
I will try to find something to show what I mean.
Julia
Look what I found! The decoration is very similar. This isn't quite what I was looking but it is interesting as apparently these Republic vases have Qianlong marks.
Julia,
Good work! The pair you found are Republic or possibly post Republic. The shop producing these has done a nice job with the bright enamels, but over all clearly 20th.
George
Thanks, George. I feel this supports a case for the vase on ebay not being Qianlong. I am sure if it were, there would be bids already with such a low starting price or at least several watchers. I guess others must doubt the authenticity, too.
Best wishes,
Julia
Good research, Julia! Dear Charles, it's a pity the dealer sold you this vase as Qianlong, hope you didn't pay too much. I think everyone of us has sometimes bought something that turned out to be not what we expected it to be - to me it happened just last year. So we keep on learning, this forum is a great place for it.
Birgit
To me this is not a qianlong vase. The mark is stamped and off center. No self respecting potter would do that. I am not sure what it is but to me it looks modern. That it is drilled is for sure not a sign it has age, also that is being faked.
Kind regards
Lian
Hey Guys, this is a vase from Republic period. Just like Lian said, the mark is stamped, very typical. Some examples for you guys.
www.wyssemaria-art.com
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Personally, I think the vase is either late 20th c. or remotely Republic period.
Peter
Peter
Charles, look what I have. It’s the same vase. I had it pegged at late 1800’s to early 1900’s. Comparing it to your vase, the enamelling is a bit better, but not a whole lot better. Sorry, but I have to agree with the others, not more than 100 years old.
sorry for the poor images and light, using iPad camera.
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