Eden Gallery Auctioneers ACTUAL Response Regarding Their Auction of Fakes to one of our readers concerning their July 2017 Sale
EDEN Fine Antiques Galleries sent you a conversation on Jul 15, 2017
PAIR OF BLUE AND WHITE THREE ABUNDANT HEXAGONAL VASES, lot#0062
Subject: Lot 0062: PAIR OF BLUE AND WHITE THREE ABUNDANT HEXAGONAL VASES
Dear Mr Mark; Thank you for your concern.
It has come to our attention. There is a difference between an Ebay seller and a renowned auction house. They are simply trying to eliminate competition and have nothing to support their claims.
He should not to compete in such way.If he try to get more business, try to invest on better quality items, do some advertisement. Try to improve himself, rather just harassing competitor.
Seller appraisal, as like he did, DOES NOT count; THE BUYER's APPRAISAL are really what we want to heard from. As we both knew, Appraisals statement are vary, depends on individual eyes, experience, and knowledge. Most of the times our clients are an entity, whether they are universities, auction houses, museums, and arts galleries, they have their specialist group/team, Not just a personal opinions.
One of our good client also informed us; and replied:"I agree, this "self-proclaimed" expert low-end eBay seller needs to be put in his place this is not the first time he has ruined a good auction houses reputation. These u-tube video posts are forever they never go away. You should seriously consider legal action against him. I have many collector friends that were planning on participating in your sale. I have already heard from two of them that now say they are considering not participating because of what he said. I am sorry to bring this negative posting to your attention. I just feel it is very wrong for him to have done this to such a good and well-respected firm like yourselves. All the best."
Over all, the auction result will tell everything. Again, thank you very much for understanding.
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Eden Gallery Auctioneers Defends Auction of Fakes of Chinese porcelain
Subject: Eden Gallery Auctioneers Defends Auction of Fakes, (well kinda)
A sense of humor in life is so important. So keep that in mind while reading along here.
Shortly after we published a post on our thoughts regarding the junk reproduction Chinese porcelain being sold by Eden galleries in Marrietta Georgia, a reader of ours contacted them. The highlighted letter is what they sent back. Hard to believe eh? If you haven't read it, take the time. The response obviously wasn't written by someone with proficiency in English, however, the point being made is still easy to understand.
The letter to the left is Eden Galleries response. Hard to believe eh? If you haven't read it, take the time. The response obviously wasn't written by someone who's first language is English, but that's ok. So grammatical errors aside, give it a look anyway. It wasn't signed, so I am just assuming they actually were dumb enough to send this out to a client.
And NO, I haven't heard from them, but would be happy to take the call.
So how did the Eden Galleries Auction do? Well, the porcelain did great if it were 1965.
Before getting into it, unless prices of rare Imperial Chinese porcelain have fallen 99% in the last two months, even a novice collector can only come to one conclusion and we all know what it is regarding this auction house.
The pair of Qianlong vases sold for $47,000, not the $4,000,000 a real pair would bring.
Two of the Ming celadon chargers/plates went unpaid. The winning bidder contacted me to say he wasn't paying for them.
The PAIR of Ming fish tanks with dragons, went unpaid. The winning bidder contacted me and cancelled the sale.
The EXTREMELY rare, "ZUN" (actually it's a "Hu") Guan vase with Yongzheng mark, failed to reach $1,500 and didn't sell. Despite having 7 bids.
The very rare $2,000,000 Qianlong Moonflask sold for $14,000 with not one "floor bid" .
The $1,500,000 Qianlong "Large Blue and Red Dragon Celestial Vase" from the "Sorensen collection" apparently couldn't get an opening bid of $750
The $1,000,000 Yuan/Ming jar went for a bargain $1,200
and on and on...
Eden Galleries response ends with this prophetic remark.
Over all, the auction result will tell everything.
Yes, on this they got it right. The Results DID tell everything. (an utter failure)
As I said at the start, were it 1965, they did just great!
To see more! Visit the results.
As for the personal criticisms of me contained in the reply, I also have a sense of humor after almost 40 years in the trade. So there's no need to say anything, what happened at this sale is completely self-explanatory.
If you missed our original post warning our readers you can read it here.
Hopefully they won’t respond the way those who came after Anthony J. Allen did when he was exposing the vast amount of Chinese fakes that filled the market place. I miss his auctions! And I would greatly miss your input as well.
Tony is a terrific guy, I’ve never met him person but have corresponded with him over the years via eMail. As for Eden Galleries, they are powerless to do anything, as the “Truth is the ultimate defense” and could never prove the pieces I discussed aren’t Modern.
Don Goddard says
May I ask what happened to Anthony Allen and who came after him? And thank you for interesting informative posts…PS I was once told there are three things you can’t hide…The Sun…The Moon …and the TRUTH!
Mike Ploom says
Thank you for helping all collectors, great job!
Hi Peter, thank you for your posts. I’m pretty new to this business, just curious how did you determine which ones are fake and which ones are not, as you are selling Chinese antiques online too?
None of the porcelains appeared to be authentic by any measure. Decoration, color etc..were all off. Judging by the miserable results, I would say ever pot they sold was a fake. I looked at as many as I could with becoming ill, the stuff was junk. After nearly 40 years of looking at Chinese porcelain it gets easier and easier. Don’t get discouraged!
richard s xu says
I am an experience Chinese antique art collector. Eden galleries are selling fake new items through auction. This coming friday , they are doing that again.