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let me initiate by posting a video from NPM:
anyone who has personally handled a piece of Jizhou leaf bowl with gilt painting?
That was very interesting, thank you. What an exquisite bowl and such an elegant shape. I would like to have heard more about how the foot rim was cut as I cannot imagine what a lathe would have looked like back then.
I shall do some research.😊
how the foot was cut is a big challenging questions, not only to connoiseurs but also many experts in China. There are two kinds of experts here: one who read books and then go to write books, and their experience are all from pics and words; the other who read books but go to the market to see real objects and compare them with excvated pieces from official archaeology and go back to revise book opinions. I belong to the latter.
Back to your question, i know how it is cut or the key tricks of it. But i would not publish it here openly. Otherwise, fakers will learn and improve their tech.
The trick is in the slogan:
"qi zu xiao you, xiao tai zhi you" （齐足削釉，削胎止釉）。
If you are interested, you can examine and study the Chinese slogan to try to understand.
That was very interesting, thank you. What an exquisite bowl and such an elegant shape. I would like to have heard more about how the foot rim was cut as I cannot imagine what a lathe would have looked like back then.
I shall do some research.😊
here are some Jizhou leaf bowl base samples from my study collection to help solve the riddle:
how the foot was cut is a big challenging questions, not only to connoiseurs but also many experts in China. There are two kinds of experts here: one who read books and then go to write books, and their experience are all from pics and words; the other who read books but go to the market to see real objects and compare them with excvated pieces from official archaeology and go back to revise book opinions. I belong to the latter.
Back to your question, i know how it is cut or the key tricks of it. But i would not publish it here openly. Otherwise, fakers will learn and improve their tech.
The trick is in the slogan:
"qi zu xiao you, xiao tai zhi you" （齐足削釉，削胎止釉）。
If you are interested, you can examine and study the Chinese slogan to try to understand.
That was very interesting, thank you. What an exquisite bowl and such an elegant shape. I would like to have heard more about how the foot rim was cut as I cannot imagine what a lathe would have looked like back then.
I shall do some research.😊
one pic post is never professional and sincere.
and if you want me to authenticate it，you can contact me in private through email [email protected]
i charge five usd for each piece of autjentication for now.
thanks
a jizhou ewer with paper cut paper cut decor
No, but it was the only pic I had kept a copy of. I was bidding on this vase myself. Looking at the pics of the close-ups and the base it appeared really convincingly. I bought three Song-style ceramics from the same source including the black ding bowl. There was also celadon material available that to me looked very authentic but I didn't buy any of those.
let me provide u a one time free service on the pic of jizhou meiping u posted：it is fake.
making that answer needs more than ten years handling and feequent contact with jizhou and the fake market.
that is why i charge.
thanks
studying by books and pics is not only
a waste of time；it is misleading.
u need real authentic objects in hand very often.
otherwise drop it.
avatar if u have a chance to come to china
welcome to handle them
This vase was available from a seller togeteher with lots of other interesting looking early wares. I could see some the other items was almost certainly authenti bu left thi one alone.
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