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I have seen these types of paintings before but I don't recall what they are called. Are these China trade items or are they called something else? And also, what are they typically worth? This one is being offered for $20. It is relatively small sized. Thanks! John
I feel like Peter features at least one similar item every week. I think they're referred to as Chinese export watercolor paintings on pith paper, but not really sure what paper that one is done on. I'd buy it because I think it's really well done. I bet it would've been part of a set that told a larger story.
Is it a painting or a print? If it's a painting then, yes, that's a steal of a price.
I think these are referred to as gouache on pith paper. A lot of these paintings are fairly small. Like yours, some show a person in everyday life, others show torture scenes ( which were popular amongst westerners) and another frequently found type are scenes from noble households. In those you will see standard features eg a noble person, a carpet and often a servant bringing or offering stuff.
I put up a link to information about pith paintings a while back but I no longer remember where I found it - an Australian university, I think.
I would buy this, especially as the frame is good. It won't make loads of money like those fine examples Peter has posted lately, as I believe these smaller ones are much more plentiful and created quickly to a set style for a market.
Have a look online for examples of what they sell for.
Julia
The seller actually has eight of them, so it looks like a set. I'm not sure how to tell from the pictures if they are prints or paintings. The seller was given them and seems to not know either. The frames seem new.
The other examples I've looked at so far don't seemed to be marked like these. These also seem like nice quality in comparison to the others I've looked at. The painting is crisper and the detail is finer. Still there is the issue of determining if they are prints or paintings.
You will have to look at them with a loupe to see if they are modern prints (dots), lithographs or live gouache paint (opaque watercolor), which means they will have to come out of the frame. It does not appear to be a custom frame job and appears to be partially pasted to a back paper, like a folio grouping sold in an unbound folder or they could have been cut from a bound book, old books would have partially lose litho illustrations with a bound tissue paper because the colors tended to bleed. The backing paper might tell you something as well, watermark or something. Guess it depends on how much inspection the owner wants you to do. My office used to have a charity silent auction and I would have to evaluate items, I dismantled a framed print and found that it was signed and dated on the back and marked as an artist proof. I felt obligated to tell the person donating the piece and it was not added to the sale, which was fine because lawyers are a competitive bunch and easily pushed to kick in on other items. It was the most fun you could have at the office. My bidamount sign is gouache, as was my former Zen Moment gouache, which I sold, so I needed to change to the hibiscus. You can get vibrant color from gouache. Sharon
Also pith paper is very fragile. I would expect to see signs of age as pieces like these have probably been handled a fair bit. There may be cracks in the painting or staining, also the edges may be worn, not necessarily neatly cut: you can see that sometimes along the sides by the edge of the frame.
@johnshoe Too bad, I was looking forward to you solving the mystery, but unless buying to keep for your own enjoyment, better not to gamble.
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