The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.
Basic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum: Talk about whatever you want. You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic. Maximum image file size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube, Vimeo etc.
NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button.
Hi Al -
You may find part of this article of interest, published in Orientations, October 1996, Vol 27, No 9, pages 67/78 by Ronald W Longsdorf ...
Stuart
Hi Al -
This may also be of interest for reference, included within 2005 publication of broken/damaged pieces within the Gugong, Palace Museum, Beijing, 2 Volumes ...
Stuart
Hello Guys.
By “handling” it , does it mean it needs to be “not to heavy” in terms of weight ?
The reason that got me interested in this piece is that I know that the Chinese character is hand written.
if it is heavily faked, I also have not seen this type of bowl before until my friend showed me there is one similar to Palace Museum…
my question is is the value fair 1500 gbp ? I can still have a chance to back out if I can confirm it is not mark and period…
Is Peter well now ? Hope he is, I love watching his video !
any link or reference of Guangxu or Tongzhi bowl would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys ..
Alex
My advice to you is too purchase this bowl for said price if not cheaper.
I have consulted with a few people who all agree it's tongzhi marked and period and highly probable to be imperial.
I would, however, ask Peter if your still unsure. But secure it before someone else buys it. As these are rare and highly sought after.
But they are being copied today. But imo and others it is not a fake.
If you wanted to buy another one you would have to pay in excess of £3500.
Ensure that it is without damage or repair as this will impact the price.
Mark
Hi Mark.
I am absolutely overwhelmed by the passion and contribution of you and everyone. I will secure this and it will take time for me to absorb all these reading. I realised that there is so much academic learning we need to spend time on as much as we like to keep collecting.
There is always that feeling involve when purchasing something and I will start reading up books as well so I can share to people who find themselves in the same situations…
thank you and will let you know what Peter says …
Al
Hello guys,
I just got a word from Peter and he said that it is beautifully made but unfortunately it is a modern copy.
1.) no sign of wear in the bowl as this type of gilding is very susceptible to wearing
2.) the footrim is not right as this would have been made to imitate imperial. The foot room is supposed to be much better than this.
3.) even at Christie’s or Sotheby’s, he would doubt it as the piece is too good to be true.
So it looks like I would need to retract my purchase. Purchased from a UK based Auction House.
I hope I have the rights to retract my winning bid if I can prove that the Mark and “possibly” period is proven otherwise.
Thanks and looking for any further opinion… or we close this sad sad case…. But important lesson for me.
Al
hello. It is UK based Auction house.
unfortunately, it is a modern copy according to Peter.
Al
@superox This has been an educational thread. Thanks for sharing the experience with us. John
Hi Brigit,
It was done so properly and I know that if I buy it I could probably sell it at a higher price for unsuspecting buyer. But, I want to share this to everyone and to make sure that product like this is taken out of the market!! We all have our fair share of this experience of paying for something that is not what is advertised and I am so ever grateful to Peter Combs for creating this community for us (Peter is like our Assange of Chinese Ceramics!)
I told the seller of my concern and they accepted it.
In meantime, thanks every one (Mark - its too good right ? thats why its called a marriage bowl (no puns intended!)) for all the contribution and to create the awareness for everyone.
Thank you and good night...
Al
Hi Al and others,
This has been a very interesting discussion on this marriage bowl.
This bowl I think would need to be handled in person to verify whether or not it is genuine.
The mark is perfect as is the glaze. The gilt is worn in appropriate places and has natural age to said gilt.
I did find this bowl at Lyon and Turnbull and viewed the images in HD.
I believe it is still a genuine example and highly probable to be from said period or perhaps a little bit later.
At the time of wedding there were in excess of 7000 pieces made of various designs etc. This was a turbulent time and a number of the leading kilnsman had departed the imperial kilns. Perhaps this is from a non-imperial kiln in the form as a attribute of sorts?
The footrim on the example is not imo consistent with other known imperial wares from the period. However, It could be a attribute ftom the guangxu period.
I do not believe that it is a a fake.
I have asked for a couple of opinions from some former and present associates of mine from both Christies and Sotheby's.
If they respond I shall indeed share opinions
Mark
Latest Post: Kangxi style vase? Our newest member: mbokstrust mbokstrust Recent Posts Unread Posts
Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"
If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.
Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.
Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects. As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.
Thank you,
Peter Combs
Topics and categories on The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes.
Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today
The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube. Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings.
The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.
The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...
Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.
China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.
Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...
Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.
The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.
Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.
With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries
Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.
Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.