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Looks Chinese Ming to me but I'm not sure.
This is a nice 19th c. Japanese cinnabar box, mimicking the Ming style. It is moulded, not carved, and this manner of chrysanthemum flowers are not Chinese in style (they look like Japanese mille de fleur).
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That's a detail picture of a Chinese Ming lacquer box you posted there I can tell. It's this one.
But I'm nort sure the box I posted is cast and I'm not sure it's Japanese either even though you say so. I would think it's lacquered wood. The wood has benn carved and the lacquered then the details are added. I'll need to check.
Here's another piece of lacquer available from the source. Again region of origin is not specified in the description.
@avatar The tray is also Japanese. The look is quite different from Chinese cinnabar landscapes.
I see. And here is yet another one. Just for the fun of it ...
@avatar I think Japanese as well.
Do you mind me asking how the seller is representing these pieces?
The fancy photography makes me think it’s a professional gallery.
@greeno107 I’m confused is it molded lacquer like a stamp? Is it not layered like Chinese cinnabar?
@lotusblack I’m going to see if I can find an article, but moulded in one layer, perhaps with some details added (carved) as needed.
@greeno107 I have another question is Chinese layered carved cinnabar still being produced today? Or are they all imitations? Thanks
They are just described as lacquer without region of origin specified. It's a prof gallery in Japan and they probably use prof photographers. The Japanese are very good with electronics you know and also make very niv´ce cameras. They are not very good at English either. Otherwise they would have a larger share of the hardware and software market. But it' s a gallery that have a lot of nice material available that sometimes can be acquired for very nice prices. I had luck to buy a USD50k Liangzhu jade bead for just a few hundred a while ago. Only a very small amount the material is fake. But some is wrongfully described and/or dated. The 'bird-feeder' with the copper-red dragon I posted in a seperate thread is from the same gallery. I'll see if I can poste some more pieces from them later.
@avatar The objects you describe are frequently faked, so be careful. The Japanese market is FULL FULL FULL FULL FULL of FAKES!
Unlike the American antique market, which for the most part is unfamiliar with Chinese and other Asian antiques....the Japanese market has an astonishing number of genuine experts. Antiques in Japan are a far more serious and professional industry than other parts of the world, especially the USA, so 'mistakes' are few and far between.
@lotusblack It's not quite the same material, but I think so, but far less layers. I think I gave this example before, but just a reminder...
A Yuan to Ming period piece might have 100 layers in a 1 cm thickness..... they applied each layer individually, allowed it to cure, then added another layer. Extremely time consuming, and I've read that a year or more could pass before the object was ready to be carved.
A Qing piece might have 25-75 layers for a 1 cm thickness.
A Republic piece might have 10-20 layers...
A modern piece... probably 5-10??? I guess it really depends on the artist who made it and how elaborate a piece it is.
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