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03/07/2021 3:16 pm  

https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-5025108

 

I wonder if they are in anyway part of some coffee tea set 🙂 

Japanese late 17th Century enamels,

applique decoration

moulded

sho-chiku-bai and imperial cranes


   
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Topic starter 03/07/2021 3:24 pm  

@short-dong coffee urns I didn’t know they had coffee back than. Lol Thanks for the link. I do see similarities.


   
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03/07/2021 3:48 pm  

@lotusblack Some interesting history about coffee here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee  

I particularly find the bit about the relationship between coffee and tea consumption in England and the Americas to be most interesting. 

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03/07/2021 3:53 pm  

@johnshoe 🤣 🤣  Yep, Lets take a break and have some coffee. 

 

 


   
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Topic starter 08/07/2021 12:06 pm  

Just a update on these plates from Peter. 

 

Title:    Japanese Arita Relief Worked Red Headed Crane Plates

Material: porcelain and enamels. 

Age:  Edo Period Circa 1800 to 1840

 

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Based on the images provided, the plates arr quite nice and interestingly worked. The relief worked Cranes are nicely decorated with almost Kakiemon colors works really well. 

 

The backs of the plates with wave and cloud borders also frame the pieces perfectly for contrast 

 

Value: Smallest to largest each $130 $150 , $175


   
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08/07/2021 1:45 pm  

That is good to know thanks for sharing that.  Are you going to sell them separately or as a set?


   
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Topic starter 08/07/2021 2:23 pm  

@julia I would like to sell them as a set. But I’m not sure if they will sell better separately. Any suggestions?


   
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08/07/2021 2:54 pm  

I don't  know. I might try offering as a set first for a fixed price and see what happens. It seems a shame to split them up. 😊 


   
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08/07/2021 3:11 pm  

I would offer them separately at about 25% more than Peter's appraisal with a best offer.

They are very nice Edo period crane plates. 

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 08/07/2021 3:28 pm  

It’s a hard dilemma I would like to see them go together but also get the best returns. 


   
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08/07/2021 4:02 pm  

Then offer them as a set with said premium with best offer.

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 08/07/2021 4:07 pm  

@imperialfinegems why do sellers use fixed price with best offer instead of auction with best offer. Doesn’t selling it at a fixed price hurt the opportunity of getting more in a bidding war?


   
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08/07/2021 4:18 pm  

Hi Brian,

Firstly I don't sell on ebay. I only buy. So my knowledge or expertise is limited.

You would need the advice of members who actively sell.

These Japanese cranes are very nice. But they are not rare or highly collectable. So a bidding war is highly unlikely.

As you know Japanese porcelain/other is difficult to sell for high prices. Unless of course it's buy a famous maker/kiln.

Perhaps Julia or Dave aka @short-dong could provide further thoughts.

Mark 


   
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@imperialfinegems Thanks I’m not thinking these plates are going to make me rich. Lol But if I can get market rate it’s a 400% return on my investment which is better than the bank offers me.


   
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