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Can somebody help me with identification and dating of the B&W cup? The walls are extremely thin, bowl is very light, it weigths 35 g. Dimensions - H51 mm, diameter - 102 mm, footrim dia. - 40 mm. I would like if it's modern and more precise dating if possible.
Many thanks in advance!!!
The blue looks to be printed and until I saw the mark on the base I assumed it was Japanese. Not 100% sure of that now but I think this is modern ie late 20th c, maybe?
The blue looks to be printed and until I saw the mark on the base I assumed it was Japanese. Not 100% sure of that now but I think this is modern ie late 20th c, maybe?
Yes, I think rather modern, but not sure. Can make makro pictures of details if necessary.
Dear Lysander,
I believe your bowl to be twentieth century work, with retrospective reign mark.
Regards,
Alan
Hi,
this is 1980s eggshell porcelain. I have a bowl of the same size with identical blue printing but another hand painted motiv. It also came in a box because it breaks easily. Quite nice items in my opinion, well made and not trying to deceive.
Birgit
Birgit
When I got home I saw that my bowl is smaller than yours (8,5 cm) and the printed blue borders and bottom are a little simpler. However both bowls were most probably made in the 1980s (see the typical 1980s ladies). These items turn up quite often, I guess they might have been souvenirs from China. Some sellers say they're old and price them accordingly, but I think this light blue printed decoration isn't very old. I bought mine from an Ebay seller who had 8 of them and sold them for 15 EUR each. When I decided to buy some more they were already sold.
There are also ugly ones that are printed all over: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Asia-Reis-Suppenschale-Eierschalenporzellan/173728197296?hash=item287301eab0:g:lacAAOSwal5YFz8g:rk:12:pf:0
Birgit
Birgit is correct, a typical eggshell bowl that are found in tourists' ware shops in China.
I though that there was a limit on the size of the images to be posted here, but evidently it is not there.
It is useless to post so large images.
Giovanni
Yes , I agree this is probably a 1970s or 80s souvenir or tourist piece; the box itself has a faded look of some age
On the bowl , the painted figures and the buildings are not very finely done. Older republican eggshell porcelain, with similar blue borders and very finely painted grisaille/grey painted scenes are now quite valuable and sought after, but I don't think yours is that old.
tam
Agreed!
On age of box. Modern after @ 1980 the boxes tend to be fairly light with plastic slips to close same.
Older boxes are sturdy, solid and have in most cases bone slips.
Mark
Dear Lysander,
I believe your bowl to be twentieth century work, with retrospective reign mark.
Regards,
Alan
Thank you Alan. IMHO this nice bowl with Qianlong seal was made in period of the Cultural Revolution in P.R.China, 1960-1980. I'm sure this bowl is no earlier than the period of Republic of China.
Birgit is correct, a typical eggshell bowl that are found in tourists' ware shops in China.
I though that there was a limit on the size of the images to be posted here, but evidently it is not there.
It is useless to post so large images.
Giovanni
Dear Giovanni, thank you for your comment. Regarding size of pictures - I'm new in porcelain. In other fields of collecting I'm active, good resolution pictures are crucial to determine if item is original, so I made what I'm used to. I will upload resized pictures in future. Regards, Peter
The blue decoration at the top and base are printed - the overlapping lines and the way the stamp was lifted away, leaving the slightly puckered printmarks in the still-wet ink are clear indications. The quality of the central painting is rather poor: it's sketchy and lacks confidence. Good painting is clear, fluid, and lively.
Hello, Lysander
here some information on eggshells porcelain, John
Hello John, thank you very much. Didn't expect so detailed info. Best regards, Lysander
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