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Attached images of a large mid 15th century dish, D. 33cm, just acquired …
The centre decorated with a recumbent Qiln, looking back over its shoulder, and flames within a garden/landscape setting surrounded by plantain, lingzhi fungus, bamboo, grasses and spiral centred rocks. The cavetto with plantain, bamboo, lingzhi fungus and orchids behind similar spiral centred rocks, a lined zigzag design to rim dressed with a brown wash. Lotus scroll to exterior, the blossoms drawn with white edge leaves and centres …
Some damage, the base with long crack which shows through across the top of the Qilins head, two areas of rim restoration and extensive glaze crackles, but a nice example of type, the cobalt of deep, rich tone, the overall composition and motif detailing exudes the bold, spontaneous painting style seen on such mid 15th century pieces …
There are a number of features which, as this site is closely monitored by the copyist/fakers, I shall not mention yet help date this piece quite accurately to within a short time frame …
Two similar, but not identical examples, are held within the Topkapi Collection, Istanbul, last image …
I would like to express my sincere thanks to Xin for all his help with acquiring this piece …
Stuart
It's beautiful and the damage isn't visible at all.
Birgit
Congratulations Stuart, beautiful piece. I hope Xin is well!
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
@ming1449 Congratulations on acquisition Stuart, the deep cobalt blue is lovely. I too, hope Xin is well and enjoying life. Sharon
@sharonp I’m doing well, thanks. 😊
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Nice dish for sure from 15th century. The crackled glaze and a little bit soft-looking paste indicate the plate is possibly from late of this century.
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Hi Mark, Birgit, Julia, Todd, Sharon and Yaqin -
Thank you all for your kind words, which are very much appreciated …
Hi Yaqin -
This dish is mid 15th century and, as mentioned above, has a number of specific features that enable it to be dated within a short time period …
One most know painting styles, decoration/motif combinations and individual specific details within such, body/glaze characteristics, methods of potting/finishing, shape, proportions and, to a degree, weight when assessing any piece …
One of the most important aspects is ‘feel’, and the differences between the originals and those made in later periods which copy the same designs, sometimes very closely …
For comparison; attached images of two dishes with Qilins/landscapes and a dish with phoenix’s amongst lotus recovered from the Lena Shipwreck cargo, all attributed to the Hongzhi period …
The study of ceramics produced at the Imperial and private kilns during the Zhengtong, Jingtai and Tianshun reigns, and there influences on late 15th/early 16th century wares, have been a specific interest of mine for the last 20 years …
Stuart
Hi Stuart,
thanks for your patient and detailed reply. Yes, I think you are right particularly the way of bouquet flowers on the cavetto interior is more often used than later Hongzhi scroll painting style. Interestingly the base of this plate is glazed, which is rare to be seen on the Hongzhi big plates.
Lucky you to have such wonderful piece in hands! 😀
Best, Yaqin
Hi, Stuart,
just today found an almost identical piece as yours in instagram of Robert McPherson, which was in the exibition: Dragons & Demons 5000 years of asian ceramics from the Anders Collection in Groninger Museum. The exibition ended in this January.....check the first plate within this link
https://www.instagram.com/robert_mcpherson_antiques/reel/DGiFqkLIoah/
All the best, Yaqin
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