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One of my birthday gifts was the book "The City of Blue & White; Chinese porcelain and the early modern world" by Anne Gerritsen (2001) and I was happy to find a photo of a small jar with deer that is very similar and the same size as one in my collection. It's always a treat to see something in a museum that matches something at home.

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Happy New Year!

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03/01/2024 11:29 am  

Very cool and it is fun to see something you own in an illustration or on a film or television set.


   
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Topic starter 03/01/2024 1:10 pm  

@sharonp Ah! Has that happened to you?

I'm always excited to see the Canton on display in the old house museums. I remember some examples in the cottages of Newport and in the Brown House in Providence.


   
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03/01/2024 2:56 pm  

@steve Not with Asian items, but I have collected old jewelry for many years and books about old jewelry, one is ivory looking disk necklace, which is some natural material but does not look like ivory or bone to me, but the compiler of the book, just showed the photo without any information other than a date approximation. I have a Trifari fake ivory carved bangle, that is probably worth as much as a real one, since old Trifari, Weiss and a few others have gone nuts in pricing. Mad Men was a visual feast for everyone coming of age mid-century and my old Dutchboy cookie jar has made it to more than one movie set. Those Libbey glasses with the gold leaves made it to a Mad Men scene of a holiday dinner, I received a set of pilsner glasses like the tumbler pattern they featured as a wedding gift (every St. Louis bride needed footed pilsner glasses for beer).


   
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@sharonp I love those pilsner glasses. A couple of years ago I found a set of 6, each with its own bouncing Highland lad and clan name, trimmed in gold. Midcentury glassmaking and decorating technology put to good use.


   
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@steve I gave my eldest son some 1904 St. Louis World's Fair items and the younger son a drink mixing tumbler with drink recipes around the outside and some old sixties swizzle sticks, next year he will also get his grandparents short round drinks glasses and mixing tumbler with the gold and black coins print on the outside, the glasses were the short round popular shape for drinking in the office on Mad Men, back when the cocktail hour was sacrosanct. Their real present was cold hard cash, but thought I might as well start forcing other things upon them, keep them or get rid of them.


   
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@steve Do you have Armstrong border Scots on those glasses? It is a lovely tartan and an example was left on the moon.


   
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@sharonp Nope, I'm afriad they're all Highland lads: Menzies, McCloud, MacGregor (obviously the greatest of them all!), McKenzie, Gordon, Macintyre.

Here they are:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/386544036623?hash=item59ffd1eb0f:g:uCcAAOSwg3Bkg8B~&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0OVKSy5sf6tg6RXg7DJS9u0vXQZqMNPq36f8Y1%2FENv8V3wkkSfXn2lzAZsjQ%2BLK2xK12TXgd6M656Wge3QNAf9Y7WS%2Fx95OXuKZWtKfRce%2BGmYCsIR3z6JyUeTxGMlXSnhczO86lGKAd7yZ6BlTt1pJR%2F5NzlTyiJJvkpFP3fHMwMyxhuP3m9kwK6CATtsW3t3oLJWCjZyYMSRgw1nt%2FN3d2yBfjSPujeyxG0Z6uSssYTNYqoL2RCLgS1d4BnlwL%2BZwfpiIdfkjQKxV5ROpHUF0%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR57AsZSaYw

I do have some Border families in my tree, though, including Galbraith, Douglas, and Cranstoun.

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@steve I have Douglas and Gordon (of course), the latest Ancestry adjustment has me at 35% Scot.


   
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@sharonp Cousin!!

 


   
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04/01/2024 10:32 am  

@steve Do you have Wallace, Fleming and Alexander? Bet you have Campbell too? According to an Tartan chart I have from the eighties, Gipson was a sept family of Buchannon, so I also brought back an example of the Buchannon tartan in '95, but Armstrong is more muted and pleasing, Buchannon is garish and would make an easier target. We have Victoria and Albert to thank for the popular return of the tartan, along with the cairngorm smoky quartz. Now for a delicious cup of Lapsang Souchong. 🤣


   
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Wallace, Campbell, Fleming, Buchanan: check! Also: Crawford, Seton, Cranstoun, Scott, Erskine, Beaton... etc etc etc...

No Alexander or Gibson, I'm afraid.

I love the Gregor hunting tartan. Next time I go to Glasgow I'll treat myself to a new kilt; not sure what tartan yet. 

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@steve I had a Black Watch kilt skirt from Scotland and that is my favorite tartan pattern and my most favorite handbag of all time was a Ralph Lauren Black Watch doctor bag shape from the nineties, Jr. High in the early sixties, Stuart pattern and other kilt skirts, have those in the tree too, like the Smith and Jones of Wales, 15% Wales, so let's hear it for Morgan and Evans. 14% Ireland, but as my Irish brother-in-law tells me, it's all Celt (he was happy his came back 98% Irish). I expect the amounts will change again at the next update, was down to 26% England and Northwest Europe this last time and they gave me more Norway, Sweden and Denmark and German went from 1% to  3%, beginning to wonder about all this DNA and how reliable it is, especially as evidence, for grins I have been studying, battle of the experts. Enjoy your trip.


   
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Yes, I wonder about the % of DNA results sometimes; they do mix things up as new information comes in and the database expands. My paternal line is Welsh yet there's no Welsh on my DNA results. At least, not right now.

My Irish side comes from the SW: Cork and Bantry Bay. O'Sullivan, Butler, Fitzgerald, and MacCarthy. Someday I'll visit. 

I am a NW European mutt: Finnish, English, German, Irish, Scottish, etc.


   
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Dear Steve, Are you home yet, did you buy any interesting items in Europe? My son did not want the Mid-Century cocktail set and the consignment shop was willing to take it, I told them, "some mid-century hipster will be pleased to find it and you can display it on that mid-century desk and chair on display (they have over a thousand on that desk and chair. They also took some European seventies era lead crystal pieces, but passed on the depression glass, which I'm glad they did pass because I traded it to an antique shop owner for a small cloisonne box. I had to keep my Libbey pilsner glasses because they were a wedding shower gift from a childhood friend. Sharon

 

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