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Topic starter 25/09/2023 1:02 pm  

Hi All,

Would love thoughts on age and general opinions on this miniature bottle vase. The miniature market sometimes has overlooked value, so curious if I have anything here. I thought it was beautifully formed and painted, but was also intrigued by the catalog number on the bottom.

Best,

Brian

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Topic starter 10/10/2023 1:20 pm  
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Thought I'd take one more crack at this one. There was a recent post about collection catalog codes. I wish there was a compiled searchable database.  Seem strange to me that someone would go through the trouble of painting the tiny catalog code on this already tiny porcelain, so my curiosity remains peaked.  


   
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Topic starter 01/10/2024 2:40 pm  

Hi All,

Bringing back an oldie. I was finally able to come across a comp similar to this little vase.  This comp is Ming. I'm curious if my miniature may be Ming. Thoughts?

https://www.trocadero.com/stores/awoa99/items/1221689/Chinese-Glaze-vase/enlargement4

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Brian


   
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01/10/2024 10:25 pm  

The catalogue number I think is from a museum of sorts. 

The footrim is very different from the one that is listed as kangxi period. The Kangxi one is straight sidded and longer. Yours is slopping inwards and much shorter. I am not convinced that the one that you posted is actually Kangxi either. 

My thoughts are it's highly probable to be early 20th Century.

But I am not 100% sure here with these miniatures.

Mark 

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02/10/2024 1:23 am  

I have recently become a little suspicious of what appear to be catalogue numbers on the base. It seems an easy way to instill a (false) sense of security. 

As Marks points out, the foot on yours differs from the Trocadero piece, as does the shape. It is a nice little thing, but I also suspect it is 20th c, however I also am not very familiar with these items.

Can you feel the black pattern? Does it feel rough? Are there potting ridges visible in the neck? Not sure any of that will help, but I am just wondering.


   
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Topic starter 02/10/2024 2:11 am  

Thank you Mark and Julia for your responses. I agree that the footrims and shapes are very different. I was more drawn to the similarities in the green ground and style of the black painting. Julia, the surface is smooth as everything is under the clear outer glaze. It's not bubbling through the way blue sometimes does.  There are ridges on up the inside of the vase similar to those left by fingers on the inside of a thrown pot (I'd love to see what tool they use in place of fingers). I had picked this up at a flea market for a few bucks from a dealer selling random not-Chinese items, so in it's most recent life there was no intention of deception regarding the catalogue numbers. The glaze is beautiful and it's a well painted miniature.  I say this not to refute the suggestions that it's 20th century, but trying to suss out any other clues. I'm still trying to find other comps.  I would love to find a 20th century comp 🙂 


   
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