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 David James
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Topic starter 27/03/2023 4:08 pm  

Hello

Can you help me with the period of this one?

Late Qing?

Thank you

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27/03/2023 4:27 pm  

It’s a nice late Qing vase


   
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28/03/2023 3:29 am  

Personally I think it’s Kangxi.

 

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Topic starter 04/04/2023 2:26 pm  
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Topic starter 04/04/2023 2:28 pm  

@lotusblack @shine clearer photos uploaded


   
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04/04/2023 6:46 pm  

I still like it,especially the pale green cracked ice design.

What makes it unusual is the absence of blue enamel.

This one

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from the New York Met has no blue enamel and the birds are similar also.

One for Peter to look at,I’d suggest.

 


   
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04/04/2023 7:51 pm  

I think it’s a nice revival vase. But I agree needs to be handled.


   
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04/04/2023 9:12 pm  

This form of bottle vase, with a wide neck and flaring mouth, was not used during the Kangxi.  Late 19th c


   
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This form of bottle vase, with a wide neck and flaring mouth, was not used during the Kangxi.  Late 19th c

I understand what you are saying but as I once posted a piece on Gotheborg that got torn to shreds and it went on for over 100 posts,”I may as well have posted a silhouette” as everything except shape was disregarded.

Further searching needs to be done by the owner if this is the only concern.

Many many variations in Kangxi bottle vase shape,here are a few.Wide neck may be an issue but I like the enamels,the unusual style and the foot.

Vic

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05/04/2023 4:34 am  

@b4tm4n 

Hi James - 

The overall painting style, especially the flower/bird panels, are stiff, one dimensional and rather‘lifeless’, and the finishing/trimming of the footrim is wrong for Kangxi period wares …
Concur with others, late 19th century …

Stuart


   
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05/04/2023 10:45 am  

I understand that Stuart and Greeno’s opinions rightly carry a lot of weight but personally I like it and also see nothing wrong with the foot for a polychrome vase,unglazed as is often seen.

I’d be interested in the size of the Vase.

 

Vic


   
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Topic starter 05/04/2023 11:08 am  

@shine 35 cm


   
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05/04/2023 11:36 am  

It is late 19th century to me, I have seen a vase with a very similar shape, but the seller has already deleted it, but she usually re-upload it every 1-2 months, so if you have time, then I can show a similar one 🙂 

but If I look at these vases:

https://www.chiswickauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/27-a-pair-of-chinese-famille-rose-dragon-bottle-vases/?lot=158780&sd=1

https://www.bukowskis.com/en/auctions/E847/lots/1372292-a-pair-of-chinese-porcelain-dragon-vases-presumably-first-half-of-the-20th-century

their necks are very similar, but the vase I wanted to show is I think exactly the same


   
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