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I found this dragon plate in the Famille Verte style. It was sold as 18th century Japanese. The shape looks Chinese so does the script. Its also 5 claw dragons. But red enamel looks Japanese. It was cheap.
Hi Brian,
A delightful dragon plate. It's definitely Japanese but I think it is Meiji period by way of the marks.
Impressive!
Mark
Yes, that first part of the mark says Dai Nippon; is it partly printed? The border looks like it, but I am not sure about the other outlines.
@julia I’m not sure about the printing but think it’s not. Only because there where 4 of these plates and they all were painted and mark by a different hands I didn’t buy the other 3 because they had pretty bad enamel loss and damage. All four had firing flaws as I believe this was a mass produced plate. As for age I’m thinking Marks probably correct I also think the other part of the script says “Hand Painted “ per another mark I found online it said Great Japan Hand Painted. But I can’t actually read any calligraphy. I’m still confused about the shape I’m not use to this form for Japanese we’re they using Chinese blanks?
I don't know, Brian. The shape is unusual, maybe it is slightly later? Didn't the Japanese made a lot of dinner wares in the 20th c? I tried to get onto Gotheborg to look but I get a weird page saying the site expired in 2007 and is pending renewal!
I don't know, Brian. The shape is unusual, maybe it is slightly later? Didn't the Japanese made a lot of dinner wares in the 20th c? I tried to get onto Gotheborg to look but I get a weird page saying the site expired in 2007 and is pending renewal!
Yes, it looks like Gotheborg site is down. All that information is gone, maybe lost for ever.
I believe this plate is most likely a stencil I’m not seeing natural hand strokes. So I guess that narrows a period down. Yes probably a dinner set. An article I found stated stencil were used a lot in the late 19th century Japan. But who know for sure could be 1960 also. I have found several comparisons all different but the same several different stencils to give a authentic look.
Brian, stencil is only possible on flat surfaces. The technique here is more correctly called transfer print.
Regards,
Giovanni
@clayandbrush ah yes transfer printing it definitely looks transferred and not that greatly done at that.
I agree with Giovanni, it isn't stencilling, there would be very regular breaks in the outlines.
Dave, when I get that page, in the top area it says Gotheborg.com so I clicked it ad it did take me to the site. I am not sure what is going on, but at least the info is there.
Just saw you agreed, sorry we posted at the same time, Brian. 😊
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