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 Ben Reichert
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Topic starter 21/08/2021 6:19 pm  

Hello,

today i found these two at a garage sale. They just seemed high quality to me, especially the woman figure.

Seems to be some kind of bone material, i dont think ivory would have those dark spots? The stone figure is unfortunately broken at the base, but it also seemed high quality hand made to me. Although part of me thinks its a touristy item. It has the number 146 on the bottom, which i assume refers to the 146th piece ?

I would love to have some information on these objects! 🙂

Thanks in advance!

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21/08/2021 11:00 pm  

@horesie,

Hi Ben,

The carving of the lady is bone. It's Japanese and from the 1930's-1960's in my opinion.

It's made from (partially) piano keys (base). The black marks are calcium deposits. Only found on bone and never on ivory. Nice!

The black dragon is interesting. Not sure what the material is. Could be some kind of Jett. Where the damaged piece near the base is the underneath shiny or opaque?

Mark 

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21/08/2021 11:04 pm  

Hi Ben,

I have had a closer look at the black dragon.

I think it might be resin. There are what looks like signs of bubbles.

A quick hot pin test (to the base) should reveal of its resin or not.

Mark

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Topic starter 22/08/2021 2:57 pm  

@imperialfinegems 

Thank you! 🙂 I payed 50 euros for the bone figure, was that a good deal or not so much?

The bubble there is just wax from a candle or so. Easily rubs off. Its defintiely some stone or smth, cold to the touch and heavy.

Heres a shot of the broken part. Some kind of polished stone? There is this line that looks like a seam, but looking at it closer i think its a scratch. Doesnt continue all thay way and is only on this side.

 

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22/08/2021 3:09 pm  

Hi Ben,

The price you paid for the bone carving is very good in my opinion.

I have seen similar sell at auction for 3 times plus what you paid. I am assuming it's without damage.

The black dragon is inconclusive. Unfortunately your images are poor. Making identification difficult.

It could still be Jett.

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 22/08/2021 3:35 pm  

@imperialfinegems 

The hand with the spoon got reattached with a small gap. So one could consider that damage. 

But i think the hands were attached separately to begin with so its probably no big deal to attach it again with no gap.

Images poor? Hm on my screen they get big and pretty sharp once i click on them. Whats poor about them?

thx!


   
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22/08/2021 3:45 pm  

Hi Ben,

I am currently using a Huawei mobile phone. That in itself is problematic.

Have you tried a scratch test for your dragon?

If it leaves a brown mark it's probably jet.

So far I think we have ruled out resin. 

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 22/08/2021 4:54 pm  

@imperialfinegems 

ah i see. Yes it does leave such a mark and looking at pictures of jet, thats most likely it 🙂

 


   
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@imperialfinegems 

Okay but i just read jet isnt cool to the touch, but my dragon is..not like jade but like marble or some other smooth stone


   
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