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Topic starter 30/11/2020 3:41 pm  

I would like to ask your help with this jar. Honestly I was not able to draw many conclusions, although I think it is from the beginning of the 20th century, I would not rule out being older, for this reason I request the valuable opinion of the members of this forum.

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01/12/2020 3:15 am  

I am not sure, I don't think it is much older than your estimation as that little row of half flowers surrounded by blue at the neck base seems to my novice eye to not date before then (or at least became popular then) and possibly not even then, it may be a bit later.

I also think the neck/mouth looks ok for your date but for the main body decoration looks later but that could be the light on it. These is just something about the almost hesitant but at times careless brush strokes that make me think of painting by numbers, but that could well just be me. 

Let's see what the experts say. 😊  I would say unlikely to be much earlier than your estimation but could be more recent.

 


   
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01/12/2020 5:21 am  

It’s quite strange. The flowers being painted so carefully that I thought they were probably printed and then the careless upper border. I think it’s Japanese because of the small bamboo rim. 

Birgit


   
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01/12/2020 7:02 am  

I think it is Chinese. That bamboo border often appears on the outside of dishes in late 19th/early 20th c, there are some examples on here, somewhere.

I also wondered about it being printed, I don't think it is, but that larger gap between the main decoration and the bottom border that  between the top and the upper border made me wonder.   


   
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01/12/2020 7:14 am  

I have looked at this vase a few times before posting. 

I am not sure if its chinese or japanese. But I am more swayed towards Chinese. 

It's got some age. Probably early 20th century imo. 

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 01/12/2020 11:27 am  

Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for your time and attention analyzing this object!
I also wondered if it could not be printed, but some parts seem to be handmade, perhaps both possibilities have occurred here. I took a good look inside with a flashlight, following Mark's tips on another topic, which made me think of early 20th.

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MB


   
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