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Topic starter 02/08/2024 11:51 am  

Hi again, I bought this for a few dollars to ask and learn. My main question is at what point is there too much enamel rubbed off for a piece like this to have value? Facial features are barely visible. Same for the calligraphy on the back. Sorry in advance for the photos. Also, I searched marks but must have overlooked this one.

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Topic starter 02/08/2024 11:59 am  

A photo of the top.

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02/08/2024 5:25 pm  

@centralpapottery 

Based on style and what remains of the art work I would venture to say that this is a Republic period vase (1920-1940) and is not a modern piece, with the mark probably a shop mark of the maker. The other positive thing is that there doesn’t appear to be any cracks or breaks which helps value-wise.

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Topic starter 02/08/2024 7:02 pm  

@gfhandel Thanks George. The porcelain is all in tact, but at what point is it valueless because of the extreme worn decoration? I think I bought it for sentimental purposes because I knew at one time it was decent and had purpose.


   
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02/08/2024 10:05 pm  

It's a Republican period vase. 

It still has a decent value as more than 70% of the enamel is visually seen from the very blurred pictures you have posted.

The foliage is still what appears to be in good condition. Perhaps the faces are slightly worn as is the calligraphy. Which isn't unusual to see for these.

Nice buy. 

Mark 


   
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03/08/2024 1:18 am  

By the hairstyle I would say 1910-1920s. Unfortunately the market is full of Republic vases with beautiful ladies which was something of a standard topic. So it's a charming piece but doesn't have great value because the buyer would easily find a less rubbed one. 

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Topic starter 03/08/2024 6:26 pm  

@shinigami thanks Birgit. That’s what I was thinking. Just couldn’t leave it. Hard to find 100 year old Chinese items in the middle of PA, badly rubbed or otherwise. None in our 15000 sq ft antique mall.


   
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03/08/2024 7:39 pm  

For the few dollars you paid for it it's a bargain. 

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04/08/2024 1:54 pm  

@centralpapottery Peter showed an older piece that was rubbed in his weekly video with loss of facial features, sometimes it pays to not be such a diligent housekeeper, and he always mentions no ammonia cleaners for non-loss of gilding. I'm with you, happy to find anything even remotely old in my little town. Congrats, Sharon


   
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07/08/2024 1:42 am  

Its from republican period. not much value except made by a famous artist. It's hard to see the name from the poem, it's likely an unknown artist based on the drawing quality. 


   
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