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Relax please! Now I almost don't know where to begin and where to end. But @ Watership: nixe and I are not the same person, I can assure you that. Yes, I was pretty annoyed that Huye Doan posted the photos and I thought about asking the moderator of the forum to have them removed even though they are not my own. Huey Doan could at least have asked if it's all right to post them. I have a copy of the high resolution photos from the eBay listing and it would have been better to post these. But since I'm posting photos that are not my own myself and violating copyright rules all the time I won't complain about it. But please don't do it again. Huey Doan's postings actually triggered a debate and that's positive I think. But I have got to admit that it's a little difficult for me to take peoples comments serious when a first-time poster on this forum like Riebnn, whose background I know nothing about, claim that "the artwork is way too stiff, definitely a modern copy", like if he has the authority to make judgements about such things. If it was Julius Thompson or Peter Combs commenting on the jar I would probably keep my mouth shut. And in the same manner I have to say that I disagree with Tam18 that "the evidence (of the photos) points to a clear fake , with a vase that is wrong or off in pretty much every respect". Personally I think it's correct in most of its aspects and I feel quite certain it's not a modern copy, but possibly a 19/20th century ditto. I might have to check up on the scrolls and leaves decoration being too clumpsy as Shinigami suggested. And, yes I'm probably going to send pictures of the jar to Christie's or another auction house, but I'm also planning to relocate to another part of town and from then starting the process of authentication etc., but for varoius reasons my relocation keep getting delayed.
Hi Corey,
It is interesting when someone only makes one post and chooses a particular thread to do so.
I hope your relocation finally gets to happen and that if you do send the photos to Christies or wherever, that you will let us know what they say. I am merely interested to know either way, but will understand if you don't want to.
I would be totally delighted for you, if it were genuine. ?
Best wishes,
Julia
Dear Nixe,
I am answering here to your critics about me, both in this thread and in another one, always related to Corey’s posts.
First, be sure that Peter is in condition to determine himself if/who should be censored.
Second, I do not have to try to convince you if I am competent or not; you think not, that’s ok with me, no problem. But it would be interesting to hear from you what you find so interesting and competent in Corey’s posts about his fake items.
To make it short, just a couple of things.
I have already told you if doesn’t cross to your mind that may be there is someone out there that may know a bit more than what you think to know. Saying for example that an item is fake because the decoration is stiff is not a weak point as you said, because it all depends if who said that has the adequate competence to distinguish between a real piece and a stiff copy, which seems that you do not have. In most cases it is necessary a certain competence to distinguish that “weak point”.
But more important in my opinion, is an extremely logical thing that do not require competence at all, just a basic, minimum capacity of analysis. Why do you think that some Chinese ceramics are sold at the mayor auction houses at so high prices? Certainly not because they are easy to find, don’t you think so?
And then, how you (and Corey, the only two in the World probably) can believe that it is possible that a seller who sells copies will sell an high end piece on ebay for a bunch of dollars?
If he continuously sells copies (I call them fake) where do you think that he buy them? Of course he has related veins. Do you (and Corey) think that he could find a genuine item at those veins? Don’t you think that who purposely sells copies is able to understand very well what is good and what is not?
Do you really think that he is so idiot to sell a one-million-dollar vase for few dollars?
Is it necessary a big competence to understand that it is not possible, or simply a grain of salt?
Corey only shows here high grade (fake) items, or standard items that he tries to pass as Imperial grade.
Never answer properly to other’s remarks, just skip them. Never submitted such fabulous items to one of the big auction houses (it takes exactly the same time of submitting them here, probably quicker).
Being green in this field is not a reason to be blamed dear Nixe (nobody knows everything, and myself is far from that), but not thinking with a bit of logic, or not having the doubt that may be someone knows a bit more than what we know, yes it is.
Giovanni
Giovanni, if you like I can send you the high resolution photographs, then perhaps you can send them to Christie's. Would you be interested in that? They must be able to exclude the jar from being of the Xuande period, which seems to be general consensus among the fellow posters in this thread. Then at least we can put that topic to silence...
Dear Corey,
I can't understand the meaning of your post. Why should I ask Christie's? I have my clear idea about your vase.
You is who said that will ask Christie's, not mine.
Giovanni
Sorry mate. It was because you kept harrasing me about sending the photographs to Christie's which I'm not overwhelmingly keen of just right now and also that you compare me to our fellow poster nixe. I'm actually also a little annoyed about his postings but didn't wanna say anything. It's funny how people always seek to make alliances when commenting on public fora. I thought about sendeing the photographs to Bruun Rasmussen but they will most likely ask me to bring it and even then, they would probably have to call in experts if they were in in the belief that the jar could be Xuande period.
Don't understand much about this convoluted thread but since this forum is owned by ebay I can only imagine that posting pictures from the main site on this is acceptable, especially as the intention of the original website hierarchy is precisely for the purpose of sharing information within very small restricted groups that pose no threat to the original business model. Or maybe I'm way off the mark and wrong?
Dear Corey, "you compare me to our fellow poster nixe": I NEVER did that. Please re-read my posts, I never said nor insinuated that you and Nixe are the same person.
Giovanni
Sorry again then, Giovanni. But actually it was 'watership' in this thread, and 'Huey Doan' in another thread, that insinuated 'nixe' and I are the same person. It's like one of the most ridiculous claims I've ever heard.
@ Supioduo: This forum is owned by Peter Combs, not by eBay.
Sorry again then, Giovanni. But actually it was 'watership' in this thread, and 'Huey Doan' in another thread, that insinuated 'nixe' and I are the same person. It's like one of the most ridiculous claims I've ever heard.
@ Supioduo: This forum is owned by Peter Combs, not by eBay.
Partnership! Its part of the ebay partner program. Following on therfore it would seem doubtful that PC is "fully" and exclusively in charge / control. Just doesn't happen.
Funny coincidence. I just came across a modern fake similar to my jar. Means that I can compare them.
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/57224025_blue-and-white-porcelain-jar-ming-dynasty
/Corey
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