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Hello everyone.
This is a question I have. How does the drilling of a hole to make a lamp and he additional of ormolu affect the value of an otherwise nice piece with no damage?
I'd love to hear from buyers and sellers. Especially since the US economy is a bit rough right now.
A lot could bring it down to 10 percent of the value. Most majors won’t accept it with damage. Unless it’s imperial of course.
Doyle and Hindman will sell them. At least they have before. I see Christies refusing them. Southebys and Bonhams might also, but they have had more success with lower value sales than Christies.
Interesting question, my thoughts, it depends. There is no dought the hole will bring the the value down but I feel the ormolu may not. If it’s a seventeen or eighteenth century piece with with period mountings, I don’t think the mounting would bring the value down. It was the fashion in Europe’s to upscale your quality Chinese porcelain during those times. As mentioned imperial pieces are a different game all together. An imperial quality Ming bowl or diplomatic gift with high quality period European mountings, would the value change? I don’t know, it is still an imperial Ming bowl with or with out the ormolu.
Ron
In my opinion if the ormolu is before 1800 it could even raise the price of an otherwise common piece as the ormolu is part of our history and and artwork in itself. Later ormolu is only a copy of the old one and can be removed without changing the value of the porcelain I think, similar to lamp fittings. As to the hole on the bottom... don't know how that affects the price. I personally don't want a chip or hairline but strange enough have no problem with firing faults or a drilled hole if it's on the bottom. If I really liked an item I would pay the same price as without the hole but maybe that's just me.
Birgit
I have no issue with buying a piece thats been lamped. Yes, it will drop the value but the more important part is the quality of the theme and painting and condition off the rest of the vase. I sure wouldn't hesitate to buy one I like just because it was lamped. After all, that was a common practice back in the day. Oh, and be very careful of Bonhams, but thats a whole different discussion.
If you buy a previously lamped vase and want to use it as it was originally intended, there are materials that can be used to plug the hole effectively and at little cost.
Some of the ormula mounted vases are aesthetic improvements when they are done well.
Thank you all. I appreciate your opinion . The piece we are looking at may be a mate to an Imperial piece, but it is not an Imperial piece itself. Plus we know its not a 19th or 20th century copy
Steve
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