Japanese B&W charger - Help Identify This https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/ BidAmount Discussion Board en-US Sat, 10 Oct 2026 23:55:31 +0000 wpForo 60 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/paged/2/#post-95693 Wed, 13 Aug 2025 19:31:06 +0000 @steve 

Hi Steve - 

I have read all his lectures given to the Oriental Ceramic Society, but must confess none of his books …

Stuart 

]]> Help Identify This Ming1449 https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/paged/2/#post-95693 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/paged/2/#post-95691 Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:13:43 +0000 @ming1449 Thanks, Stuart. Those are lovely long-necked birds. Dr Impey must have had quite a collection. Have you read any of his books?

Regards,

Steve

]]> Help Identify This Steve https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/paged/2/#post-95691 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95690 Wed, 13 Aug 2025 13:59:02 +0000 @steve 

Hi Steve - 

I thought you might like to see and read the catalogue entry for this large dish, No 117 in the Oriental Ceramic Society Centenary Exhibition, held in 2021 …

Stuart 

 

]]> Help Identify This Ming1449 https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95690 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95660 Mon, 11 Aug 2025 20:55:26 +0000 @watership

Hi Todd,

Funny you should mention it: I saw Peter recommend it in a video and found a volume in the U.S. (just one!) for a reasonable price and it arrived a week or so ago - volume VII. It's a lot of fun and very useful. 

Regards,

Steve

]]> Help Identify This Steve https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95660 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95658 Mon, 11 Aug 2025 20:29:15 +0000 Update: I had peter look at this and he thinks it's 1675-1685, so early Edo. I'm very happy!

Does anyone have "Ko-Imari Porcelain From the Collection of Oliver Impey"? Peter recommended it and I found a copy on Abe Books - it's on its way.

Warm regards,

Steve 

]]> Help Identify This Steve https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95658 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95469 Mon, 28 Jul 2025 21:44:45 +0000 @icnvrs3rdaol-com Thank you, George!

Just now I happen to come across this plate for sale by Robert McPherson with the same double wave border. This one is Kangxi Chinese imitating Japanese. 

91811]]> Help Identify This Steve https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95469 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95459 Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:09 +0000 Congratulations...you are a loving collector !

]]> Help Identify This George Converse https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95459 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95446 Sun, 27 Jul 2025 19:28:21 +0000 @gfhandel

@imperialfinegems

@watership

@julia

Thank you, everyone, for the feedback. Much appreciated! 😊 

I can't say it was cheap but it was very much worth it.

 

]]> Help Identify This Steve https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95446 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95425 Sat, 26 Jul 2025 04:38:09 +0000 It is lovely! I also think late Edo. 😊 

]]> Help Identify This Julia https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95425 RE: Japanese B&W charger https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/japanese-bw-charger/#post-95424 Sat, 26 Jul 2025 04:23:27 +0000 Hi Steve,

It's a very nice charger. Copying Kraak wear pretty well, including the shape. Of course, the spur marks are the obvious giveaway that it's Japanese. Another clear indication is that thin wave pattern between the inner and outer decorations. That light blue shade, with the white outline, combined with the darker blue, is always Japanese and also is the best way to date it I think. That style was late 18th to early 19th. So, Mark's 1800 dating seems pretty good, give or take. The outer decoration with the big flowers and vines was popular from the late 17th on. I have the big 2019 Shibata book. The binding has come apart...I use it so much. Highly recommended. 

Todd

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