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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 13:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@imperialfinegems 
Thank you for the information you provided.
Yes, usually four people are listed as outstanding dealers of Ming and Qing furniture on the websites of auction houses Sothe...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@imperialfinegems </p>
<p>Thank you for the information you provided.</p>
<p>Yes, usually four people are listed as outstanding dealers of Ming and Qing furniture on the websites of auction houses Sotheby's and Christie's. These are Grace Wu, Andy Hei, Nicholas Grindley and Robert Ellsworth.</p>
<p>As for the price of the box, as I understand it, this may be a surprise?))</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
                        <link>https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/box/paged/4/#post-94133</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 11:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@@cherdak, 
That&#039;s great news from Grace as she&#039;s one of the most respected opinions on wood. 
So its completely Zitan which is a bonus along with 18th C.
Mark]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@@cherdak, </p>
<p>That's great news from Grace as she's one of the most respected opinions on wood. </p>
<p>So its completely Zitan which is a bonus along with 18th C.</p>
<p>Mark </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 09:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There is still no response from Andy Hei.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is still no response from Andy Hei.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 08:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@imperialfinegems 
This is a response from Grace Wu Bruce and from Nicholas Grindley]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@imperialfinegems </p>
<p>This is a response from Grace Wu Bruce and from Nicholas Grindley</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/">Help Identify This</category>                        <dc:creator>Svetlas</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 08:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@imperialfinegems 
The first answer has arrived!!!
I convey the entire text verbatim: “From the shape of the foot and the overall design I think, from the photographs, that your box is zit...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@imperialfinegems </p>
<p>The first answer has arrived!!!</p>
<p>I convey the entire text verbatim: “From the shape of the foot and the overall design I think, from the photographs, that your box is zitan and dates from the mid to late 18th century. The maker has used the more decorative side of the zitan, which is why it looks a little like macassar, for the outside. I would very much doubt that two different timbers are involved here.”</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
                        <link>https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/box/paged/4/#post-94115</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 12:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Just today I noticed that the texture of the wood on the lid and on the box itself matches on all sides only in one position! But if you turn the lid over, the texture does not match. The cr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Just today I noticed that the texture of the wood on the lid and on the box itself matches on all sides only in one position! But if you turn the lid over, the texture does not match. The craftsman approached the box design in a very interesting way!</span></p>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
                        <link>https://bidamount.com/the-bidamount-asian-art-forum/help-identify-this/box/paged/4/#post-94114</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 11:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Maybe someone has a stationery box in their collection? Can you share photos of your boxes.. 
And a question about the design of such boxes in the Qing Dynasty. Why do they put a board loos...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Maybe someone has a stationery box in their collection? Can you share photos of your boxes.. </span></p>
<p><span>And a question about the design of such boxes in the Qing Dynasty. Why do they put a board loosely on the bottom? Do they pull it out and use it somehow? Or what is its purpose?</span></p>
<p><span>Thank you in advance for your help</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2025 05:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Interesting box, pay attention to the zitan itself. It is indicated that interesting zitan is used with alternating light and dark stripes. I have not seen this before.

It reminds me of m...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Interesting box, pay attention to the zitan itself. It is indicated that interesting zitan is used with alternating light and dark stripes. I have not seen this before.</span></p>
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<p><span>It reminds me of my tree, but I don't think my box uses zitan on the outside.</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2025 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@imperialfinegems 
Thank you very much for your contact. I wrote. I will wait for a response. 
Right now I am looking at Christie&#039;s again and I can say that zitan is absolutely different o...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@imperialfinegems </p>
<p><span>Thank you very much for your contact. I wrote. I will wait for a response. </span></p>
<p><span>Right now I am looking at Christie's again and I can say that zitan is absolutely different on different items. </span></p>
<p><span>One item says it is made of zitan, but the color is like huanghuali...and the texture of the wood is different.</span></p>
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89961
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                        <title>RE: Box</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2025 03:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Perhaps try reaching out to Grace. She&#039;s a top wood dealer in Hk. 
Mark]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps try reaching out to Grace. She's a top wood dealer in Hk. </p>
<p>Mark </p>
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